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  • #61
    Originally posted by DeepcutHoop View Post
    I'm with you on this. HE may be ever so slightly better than the dross we have currently, but we were still ****e with this midfield maestro playing for us.

    Add to that, the fact that he obviously dislikes the club and fans, and has made it clear he won't be playing for us next year, as despite us paying his wages, he doesn't think our league position is something that should be inflicted on him.

    And still there are some with 'battered wife syndrome' on here that still think he'll change, and that it's our fault he doesn't like us, and he needs just one more last chance and he'll show us how much he loves us......
    Agree with this. He often refers to his affinity to Newcastle and their fans, and to Marseilles in the same vein. Rarely if ever mentions this club or its fans in a positive light.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by DeepcutHoop View Post
      He lost his temper, and lashed out violently. Which he's done before, several times.

      He got a 12 match ban, on top of his ban earlier in the season (which was due to a Johnson con, but if Barton wasn't nose to nose with him, it doesn't happen)

      You can't just shrug those off unfortunately.
      I can :-) hope he comes back be like a breath of fresh air compared to the nancy boys we got playing for us now.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by DeepcutHoop View Post

        And still there are some with 'battered wife syndrome' on here that still think he'll change, and that it's our fault he doesn't like us, and he needs just one more last chance and he'll show us how much he loves us......
        Well summed up! Never heard of the 'battered wife syndrome' analogy before....but no doubt i'll be using it a lot from now on

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        • #64
          Originally posted by DeepcutHoop View Post
          He lost his temper, and lashed out violently. Which he's done before, several times.

          He got a 12 match ban, on top of his ban earlier in the season (which was due to a Johnson con, but if Barton wasn't nose to nose with him, it doesn't happen)

          You can't just shrug those off unfortunately.
          I can judge him on his time with QPR, during which, he was in fact incredibly restrained in the face of confrontation on the pitch. He's an easy target and players think this and tried to rile him. He didnt react, except in the instace explained at City. You say yourself he was cheated when given red against Norwich so can hardly tar him for that... maybe he shouldn't of gone face to face, but blimey that happens in every game in every season at some point. It's standing your ground and he cant be castigated because another player cheats and dives to the ground as if butted.
          Last edited by Del; 15-05-2013, 12:27 PM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Del View Post
            I can judge him on his time with QPR, during which, he was in fact incredibly restrained in the face of confrontation on the pitch. He's an easy target and players think this and tried to rile him. He didnt react, except in the instace explained at City. You say yourself he was cheated when given red against Norwich so can hardly tar him for that... maybe he shouldn't of gone face to face, but blimey that happens in every game in every season at some point. It's standing your ground and he cant be castigated because another player cheats and dives to the ground as if butted.
            He got goaded into a confrontation.

            I don't understand how you can ignore the 15 games worth of suspension he got due to his reactions, and then say that apart from that he was well-behaved. There is a reason he's targeted by other players, it pays off. His reputation is not something he's got by accident.

            You are right he didn't react most of the time, but when he did he got punished. We got punished.

            He already thinks he's too good for the Championship, and thinks he's above it. He would likely get far worse provocation (and far less subtle) in the Championship. Do you honestly see him getting through a season without losing his rag?

            By the sounds of it, this is a pointless conversation, as he no longer wants to play for us, and certainly not in the Championship.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by DeepcutHoop View Post
              He got goaded into a confrontation.

              I don't understand how you can ignore the 15 games worth of suspension he got due to his reactions, and then say that apart from that he was well-behaved. There is a reason he's targeted by other players, it pays off. His reputation is not something he's got by accident.

              You are right he didn't react most of the time, but when he did he got punished. We got punished.

              He already thinks he's too good for the Championship, and thinks he's above it. He would likely get far worse provocation (and far less subtle) in the Championship. Do you honestly see him getting through a season without losing his rag?

              By the sounds of it, this is a pointless conversation, as he no longer wants to play for us, and certainly not in the Championship.
              I havent ignored it, but that was one game, the insinuation made was that he gets wound up all the time, which he doesn't. That's based on fact. As for the City game, there's no way he would've reacted in the same way had it been a "normal" game mid season.

              As for the 12 games, well the FA hardly cover themselves in glory with their disciplinary process, especially of late letting off leg breaking challenges scott free etc, and whether it justified such a ban is debatable. It was also lengthened due to the fact he'd been wrongly re carded against norwich just to compound it further.

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