why we must stick two fingers up to jonny foreigners....buy british!!!

[WeAreQPR12]

Less the swear word what has he said to upset you??? Cant see an awful lot wrong with that myself

The key word west acton is 'belittle'.

Read the post again and you will see where I am going with this.

His comment to my post was plain and simple, out of order.

[QPRDave]

Stop wummimg deepcut!

[WeAreQPR12]

Stop wummimg deepcut!

it's woooing and no I am serious Dave.

I'll be honest the good posters have gone from this site and that is like a double whammy with relegation. I refer to real fans.

[DeepcutHoop]

The key word west acton is 'belittle'.

Read the post again and you will see where I am going with this.

His comment to my post was plain and simple, out of order.

As it was in response to this

Oh and Deepcut, I am ****** pleased you don't control our borders, you're the softest, most pathetic touch I have come across and a sad example of this nanny state we currently are!

I think it was pretty restrained tbh

[WeAreQPR12]

As it was in response to this



I think it was pretty restrained tbh

That last sentence was just passion and if it wasn't for your humor I wouldn't of reacted to be fair!

[MYU]

Tend to agree this is not a colour issue in my view its an attitude debate and that applies to all colours, and backgrounds etc

I think its too easy to just suggest if they are from Africa they are not up to the job and we need to focus on Anglo European white players to solve the problem as I can give two examples off the top of my head of white players who have shown just as poor an attitude and fight as some of the African players who appear to be the focus of the debate.

I give you Rowan Vine White British player who was more then happy to steal a living and offered up performances far worse then that of Mbia alternatively Granero (Northern European as someone suggested) also lacks desire and they are both of the colour and regionality that some are asking for to solve the problem.

The answer to me is to do your homework on a player before you buy them as that will usually be a decent indicator of what your getting i.e. anyone who scouted Adel over time would have been able to report back that he is a lad with ability but has and attitude and is probably not a team player no point moaning he is not a team player after you have bought him!!!!! the opposite of this would be someone like Viera someone scouting him would have said the boy is a leader who sets an example and will run through a brick walls for the team.

QPR has always had foreign players and been a diverse club and in the main we have not had a problem with foreign players in the past; why because the players in the past had been sought via proper old fashioned scouting and getting to learn about a player and what he is made of over time. From the arrival of Paladini and carried on by Flabby and Hughes we have stopped scouting and relied upon players been offered to us by agents so what we are getting in the main is a player on the recommendation of an agent who has an interest in the main of moving the player on.

We've passed the reigns off one of the most important aspects of any football club (its life a blood) player acquisitions over to an external party who does not have the best interests of the club at heart when he offers a player rather what he can make from offering the player

To me that's problem not where someone is from etc we have become lazy as a club and stopped doing our homework which for a club our size is our bread and butter. Were not Arsenal or Man Utd we cant afford to take a chance on a player our buys in the main have to be on the money (Sintons, Ferdinands, Peacocks, Wilsons, Bardsleys & Sinclairs etc) and that's what we don't do anymore we need to get back to it

The end

Very good post mate.

[DeepcutHoop]

Stop wummimg deepcut!

Not wumming, I'm genuinely appalled by this thread, and not a big fan of being told I'm pathetic. I've been called far worse for disagreeing with people tbf, but it's still irritating.

[Factamondo]

deeps whist we obviously have differing opinions you do seem to rather enjoy 'poking a bear with a sod head with a stick' old bean...why does this thread 'appall ' you???

[QPRDave]

Yeah but deep you do type down to people and i feel you insult your fellow Rs far too easily, yet are all hugs and kisses with other teams trolls on here.

[jfish]

O[QUOTE=WeAreQPR12;1070473]The key word west acton is 'belittle'.

Read the post again and you will see where I am going with this.

His comment to my post was plain and simple, out of order.[/QUOTEI


What are you referring to ? I can't see why your getting upset?

Surely not about mentioning diakate's personal problems?, he had his reasons as I sure you do for not being right at the moment. Really don't think deep cut was digging you out.

[DeepcutHoop]

deeps whist we obviously have differing opinions you do seem to rather enjoy 'poking a bear with a sod head with a stick' old bean...why does this thread 'appall ' you???

I disagreed with original post, it over simplified the problems that we've been having over the last year and was pointing at the wrong culprits, or at least for the wrong reasons(West Acton has absolutely nailed it IMO), but I understand the sentiment behind it, so didn't get involved at that point (as I know what usually happens if I dare to comment on this kind of thread)

Someone then responded and brought race into it again, which is even further from the point.

I know I am left of most on this board, but I'm not going to shut up if I disagree strongly with something.

[WeAreQPR12]

[QUOTE=jfish;1070500]O

The key word west acton is 'belittle'.

Read the post again and you will see where I am going with this.

His comment to my post was plain and simple, out of order.[/QUOTEI


What are you referring to ? I can't see why your getting upset?

Surely not about mentioning diakate's personal problems?, he had his reasons as I sure you do for not being right at the moment. Really don't think deep cut was digging you out.

That's a pretty damning statement and how long have you been a physiatrist for Fish?

[DeepcutHoop]

Yeah but deep you do type down to people and i feel you insult your fellow Rs far too easily, yet are all hugs and kisses with other teams trolls on here.

I most certainly do not act pally with trolls, but I'm happy to let oppo fans have reasonable conversations on here, and not get aggressive with them until they prove they are only here on the WUM.

The mods have been dealing with those types well recently anyway tbf

[loneranger]

Doctor fish

[Factamondo]

well deeps i respect your views both on rangers matters and politically as this is the benefits of living in a tolerant nation of freedom of speech....i really didnt want the thread to go down this path as i feel my original post,if not taken out of conrext, had valid yet somewhat contraversial points!