Harry meeting TF this morning

[vblockranger]

Any names you wish to put forward?

Must be some other investors that have more of the interest of the club at heart than there own interests? In my opinion the signings of the likes of Park, Granero,Boswinga, Cesar etc was purely down to Fernandes influence and him wanting to promote his airline and the profile of this "project". Well we are not a project Tony we are a football club and what happens on the pitch is a lot more important than our profile or the marketing in Asia. Stay the **** away from the playing side of things next season , get rid of Phil Beard and stop using my club to market yourself and your other interests please Tony and then just maybe you may prove you have learnt something from these last 2 embarrassing seasons.....and btw thanks for the crippling wage bill that you and Phil ok'd that now means we are reliant on you and your dream for a multi use venue with your name on it.

[Hitman34]

we all make mistakes, lets just hope tony has learnt from his and now we can start building a proper FOOTBALL squad along with an academy.

its time for a clean slate. build proper foundations and slowly but surely progress.

[QPR Richard]

Must be some other investors that have more of the interest of the club at heart than there own interests? In my opinion the signings of the likes of Park, Granero,Boswinga, Cesar etc was purely down to Fernandes influence and him wanting to promote his airline and the profile of this "project". Well we are not a project Tony we are a football club and what happens on the pitch is a lot more important than our profile or the marketing in Asia. Stay the **** away from the playing side of things next season , get rid of Phil Beard and stop using my club to market yourself and your other interests please Tony and then just maybe you may prove you have learnt something from these last 2 embarrassing seasons.....and btw thanks for the crippling wage bill that you and Phil ok'd that now means we are reliant on you and your dream for a multi use venue with your name on it.

As I asked for, any names you wish to put forward?

I believe Phil Beard is here primarily to deal with the proposed new stadium. I think that's his main role. He's a man that not only did good work on the O2 but also the Olympics. TF want a new home for QPR and it needs to be multi-purpose. I doubt there's many around with Beard's experience.

[Jeems]

Must be some other investors that have more of the interest of the club at heart than there own interests? In my opinion the signings of the likes of Park, Granero,Boswinga, Cesar etc was purely down to Fernandes influence and him wanting to promote his airline and the profile of this "project". Well we are not a project Tony we are a football club and what happens on the pitch is a lot more important than our profile or the marketing in Asia. Stay the **** away from the playing side of things next season , get rid of Phil Beard and stop using my club to market yourself and your other interests please Tony and then just maybe you may prove you have learnt something from these last 2 embarrassing seasons.....and btw thanks for the crippling wage bill that you and Phil ok'd that now means we are reliant on you and your dream for a multi use venue with your name on it.

Agree about Park, but I dont think the others you mentioned were signed for commercial reasons.

Granero was a relative unknown, no one in their right mind would put eyebrow anywhere near an advertising campaign and Cesar was just a ****** good keeper.

I think TF has the clubs best intentions at heart, much like Amit.

If he's committed to staying, I think we need to get behind him. Fractions between people who want to see QPR progress is never a good thing!

[Hitman34]

Agree about Park, but I dont think the others you mentioned were signed for commercial reasons.

Granero was a relative unknown, no one in their right mind would put eyebrow anywhere near an advertising campaign and Cesar was just a ****** good keeper.

I think TF has the clubs best intentions at heart, much like Amit.

If he's committed to staying, I think we need to get behind him. Fractions between people who want to see QPR progress is never a good thing!

dont agree with that.

inter milan and brazil goalkeeper, real madrid player with tons of winners medals, ex chelsea player who had just won the champions league. all are very marketable in the far east and that is probalby why they were bought.

[Hitman34]

also, add young suk to that list.

[Kirill]

Amit would be great. But the way things are "progressing" under TF, I think even I could afford to buy QPR soon and have a go at running the club myself.

[Factamondo]

i think krill,though not someone ive always seen eye to eye with,is entitled to his opiono on tf....in most big business corporations if the chairman failed year after year his/her position would come under question.....tf must admit he has made huge big mistakes and whist i admire his gusto he really is foolhardy for a businessman!

[vblockranger]

As I asked for, any names you wish to put forward?

I believe Phil Beard is here primarily to deal with the proposed new stadium. I think that's his main role. He's a man that not only did good work on the O2 but also the Olympics. TF want a new home for QPR and it needs to be multi-purpose. I doubt there's many around with Beard's experience.

Couldnt give a stuff about the new stadium, thats years away if it ever happens. Fernandes needs to get things right with recruitment to oversee the playing side first otherwise whats the point of a big new stadium if we are struggling in the Championship or worse? Fernandes and co will still have their new nice and shiny venue in London though so i suppose his priority is always going to be that. So instead of hiring a guy who is aces at venues as club CEO, how about a guy who can run a ****ing football club when Tony is elsewhere (seems to be all the time except game days) and is not going to negotiate away thousands of quid a week in barmy contracts to try and lure "names" to the club who obviously wouldnt play for us otherwise? that would be a start.

[Factamondo]

agreed...forget sodding new stadiums as we cant fill the one we have!

[Rangers_Boy83]

After this season I don't think anyone could or should escape criticism and it’s been a total **** up from start to finish. Many on here and elsewhere will point the fingers and decided who’s ****** up and when but for me it’s about the future of our great club.

I truly believe TF should be a part of it, he has made mistakes as everyone has but the commitment he has shown (new training ground, money for new players) and the fact he is sticking around, few clubs are lucky enough to have someone like him.

People on here say the ‘big names’ we have bought were just to market us across the World, well now we are relegated how does that look to the Far East? Not good, and Tony knows this so you’ve have to say these players where bought in on good faith and with the managers blessing. When we bought in these names I only saw positivity and hope on these message boards, no doubt much like the board room. There is no exact science of making a great premiership club, but in hindsight, buying 12 new players over a summer, is not the best way. Coupled with MH and maybe even HR It’s proved a disaster.

Stability has to be the best way forward and I hope TF sits down, worked out what he could have done better and start again next season with manager and team that wants to play for the mighty QPR!

[MrSwakeley]

As I asked for, any names you wish to put forward?

I believe Phil Beard is here primarily to deal with the proposed new stadium. I think that's his main role. He's a man that not only did good work on the O2 but also the Olympics. TF want a new home for QPR and it needs to be multi-purpose. I doubt there's many around with Beard's experience.

As I asked for, any names you wish to put forward?

I believe Phil Beard is here primarily to deal with the proposed new stadium. I think that's his main role. He's a man that not only did good work on the O2 but also the Olympics. TF want a new home for QPR and it needs to be multi-purpose. I doubt there's many around with Beard's experience.

I suggest a slight change of emphasis: TF wants a stadium, which will also be home to QPR.

In terms of on-field success, he has achieved nothing. We have had two dreadful seasons and have a joke squad lacking in passion. Sure TF delegated but he delegated to incompetents - and with delegation goes some degree of responsibility. He is not the first to fall under the spell of KJ but he was still insisting the earth was flat when even Hughes ar$elickers like Savage were beginning to question his ability. So, from the playing side - which, spookily enough is how many football teams are judged – he has taken the club backwards.


Beard was undoubtedly appointed with the stadium in mind so it doesn't really require massive amounts of hindsight to suggest that was the MAIN priority rather than getting someone in to oversee contracts/recruitment. By all means blame Rigg/Hughes - they are twunts of the highest order - but let's not forget Beard appearing on SSN on deadline day congratulating himself on what good business HE had done.

Off the field, there does appear to be investment in infrastructure. The new training ground/academy is great news, particularly after the lack of investment by FB and BE, but to be quite frank this HAD to be done just to keep up with the overwhelming majority of Premier and Championship clubs. And that has to be built and then established. Southampton is often quoted as a good example of what can be achieved but they didn't do that overnight and they were fortunate enough to have very good people to run their academy led by Huw Jennings. Incidentally, Jennings is now at Fulham who are only now starting to produce potential Prem players despite having a widely-acknowleged top-notch training set-up for over ten years.So, yes good news, but I would counsel against wetting our pants quite so much about how the training facility is going to change our fortunes anytime soon - even Brentford for god's sake are going to have one before we do.

So, to sum up, we are getting a new training ground and there are plans, as yet to be defined, about a new 40,000 seater stadium. It is better than we had before (apart from the fact we are back in the Championship) but that is it so far, apart from a lot of tweets and PR. So for me, the jury is very much still out on TF - but he is better than nothing, and who knows who else would be interested in the club? As for Amit, I can't see why people are so keen on him... what exactly has he got that would make him a good chairman? Ah yes, he seems a nice bloke and tweets a bit.

Just because I can't suggest anyone to replace TF, doesn't automatically mean he is the best person for us – and doesn't mean that I have to blindly accept everything he says as gospel.

Maybe I have become cynical and am wary of anything that seems to good to be true, but I am not putting my blind faith in anyone who to date has talked plenty of talk but has yet to produce anything that has significantly move my club forward. I very much hoped that my cynicism will be proved to be false but I ain't expecting that any time soon.

[CroydonCaptainJack]

As I asked for, any names you wish to put forward?

I believe Phil Beard is here primarily to deal with the proposed new stadium. I think that's his main role. He's a man that not only did good work on the O2 but also the Olympics. TF want a new home for QPR and it needs to be multi-purpose. I doubt there's many around with Beard's experience.

Don't hold your breath Richard!

[vblockranger]

I suggest a slight change of emphasis: TF wants a stadium, which will also be home to QPR.

In terms of on-field success, he has achieved nothing. We have had two dreadful seasons and have a joke squad lacking in passion. Sure TF delegated but he delegated to incompetents - and with delegation goes some degree of responsibility. He is not the first to fall under the spell of KJ but he was still insisting the earth was flat when even Hughes ar$elickers like Savage were beginning to question his ability. So, from the playing side - which, spookily enough is how many football teams are judged – he has taken the club backwards.


Beard was undoubtedly appointed with the stadium in mind so it doesn't really require massive amounts of hindsight to suggest that was the MAIN priority rather than getting someone in to oversee contracts/recruitment. By all means blame Rigg/Hughes - they are twunts of the highest order - but let's not forget Beard appearing on SSN on deadline day congratulating himself on what good business HE had done.

Off the field, there does appear to be investment in infrastructure. The new training ground/academy is great news, particularly after the lack of investment by FB and BE, but to be quite frank this HAD to be done just to keep up with the overwhelming majority of Premier and Championship clubs. And that has to be built and then established. Southampton is often quoted as a good example of what can be achieved but they didn't do that overnight and they were fortunate enough to have very good people to run their academy led by Huw Jennings. Incidentally, Jennings is now at Fulham who are only now starting to produce potential Prem players despite having a widely-acknowleged top-notch training set-up for over ten years.So, yes good news, but I would counsel against wetting our pants quite so much about how the training facility is going to change our fortunes anytime soon - even Brentford for god's sake are going to have one before we do.

So, to sum up, we are getting a new training ground and there are plans, as yet to be defined, about a new 40,000 seater stadium. It is better than we had before (apart from the fact we are back in the Championship) but that is it so far, apart from a lot of tweets and PR. So for me, the jury is very much still out on TF - but he is better than nothing, and who knows who else would be interested in the club? As for Amit, I can't see why people are so keen on him... what exactly has he got that would make him a good chairman? Ah yes, he seems a nice bloke and tweets a bit.

Just because I can't suggest anyone to replace TF, doesn't automatically mean he is the best person for us – and doesn't mean that I have to blindly accept everything he says as gospel.

Maybe I have become cynical and am wary of anything that seems to good to be true, but I am not putting my blind faith in anyone who to date has talked plenty of talk but has yet to produce anything that has significantly move my club forward. I very much hoped that my cynicism will be proved to be false but I ain't expecting that any time soon.

Post of the week so far :-) and is my view on it also...just that you have posted it more intelligently and concisely.

[Kirill]

Don't hold your breath Richard!

Heh, could anyone have put forward TF's name above all other names many months before he became our chairman? Guessing game.