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  • London Club Pecking Order

    So who is London's premier club?? based on what Martin Samuels says we trail behind Charlton and Palace so how do you call it. I would have it the following way:

    Clubs that clearly stand out:

    1) Arsenal - Are the biggest club we have to offer. Most successful, biggest crowds and wherever you go you see Gunners tops
    2) Tottenham - Still the second club in London in my book marginally in front of Chelsea. They are not massively successful but they still pull big numbers home and away and as with Arsenal you see their tops all over
    3) Chelsea I am afraid. Have as we would all expect become bigger and picked up support since the ruble man arrived. Yes you see plenty of Chelsea fans about on the street but on European match days and some premier league games there are always tickets to be had
    4) West Ham have the big catchment area into Essex and I would ague are comfortably bigger then those which are to follow

    Middle Teams:

    I would start by saying there could be an argument to shuffle all these in any order

    5) QPR - I would argue we are a bigger club then Fulham based on history and consistently pulling crowds. Similar to Chelsea Fulham's crowd and popularity has increased since being in the prem. Were they to drop I have no doubt they would return to crowds of 10 to 12k (Accept if a Fulham fan was judging this they would swap the places)
    6) Fulham - Please see above
    7) Palace - I think should be a bigger club then they are and like West Ham should have a bigger pulling power as after them the next team you hit is Brighton.
    8) Charlton - As with the above there is an argument you could swap Charlton with Palace. Like Fulham crowds swelled from being in the prem
    9) Millwall - As far back as I can remember Millwall have pulled 10 to 12k no matter what division they have been in

    Also Rans

    10) Brentford - Think there comfortably bigger then the three below them
    11) Orient - Suffer from being so close to West Ham
    12) AFC Wimbledon - Were never a big or medium sized club even as old Wimbledon
    13) Barnet - No comment

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    Fulham

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    • #3
      What are the criteria?

      I'd probably have more than 3 levels. WHU don't belong in the same category as the first three, IMO. Even Spurs might not belong in the first tier. What do they average, about 36,000? And when is the last time they won the league? 1961?!
      'Only a Ranger!' cried Gandalf. 'My dear Frodo, that is just what the Rangers are: the last remnant in the South of the great people, the Men of West London.' - Lord of the Rings, Book II, Chapter I - Many Meetings.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dsqpr View Post
        What are the criteria?

        I'd probably have more than 3 levels. WHU don't belong in the same category as the first three, IMO. Even Spurs might not belong in the first tier. What do they average, about 36,000? And when is the last time they won the league? 1961?!

        Good points,although spurs are probably one of only four clubs in this country that could fill 60k-65k everyweek.

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        • #5
          Local support is what makes a big club.the biggest supported teams always have a big local support,and the club grows from there.islington/holloway,highbury full of gooners, Tottenham full of ####,but bush,acton,grove,harlesden, rise etc has more utd,lpool,#### and spurs than qpr I'm sad to say.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dsqpr View Post
            What are the criteria?

            I'd probably have more than 3 levels. WHU don't belong in the same category as the first three, IMO. Even Spurs might not belong in the first tier. What do they average, about 36,000? And when is the last time they won the league? 1961?!
            Seriously you would not have Spurs as one of the top three clubs in London!!! Granted they have not won much recently but regardless of that they pack out WHL in the league and on European nights and away from home they always sell out. More loyal cliental at Spurs then Chelsea in my book

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            • #7
              Forgot Dagenham and Redbridge, but that says it all really!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Qprnw10 View Post
                Local support is what makes a big club.the biggest supported teams always have a big local support,and the club grows from there.islington/holloway,highbury full of gooners, Tottenham full of ####,but bush,acton,grove,harlesden, rise etc has more utd,lpool,#### and spurs than qpr I'm sad to say.
                Its true mate outside of Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea I don't think any other clubs in London rule there patch.

                To many fans nowadays chase trophy's instead of backing the team on their doorstep

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by West Acton View Post
                  Seriously you would not have Spurs as one of the top three clubs in London!!! Granted they have not won much recently but regardless of that they pack out WHL in the league and on European nights and away from home they always sell out. More loyal cliental at Spurs then Chelsea in my book
                  I certainly agree that Spurs are third, but I think the top two are so far ahead of them (using almost any criteria) that they are on a different "level".
                  'Only a Ranger!' cried Gandalf. 'My dear Frodo, that is just what the Rangers are: the last remnant in the South of the great people, the Men of West London.' - Lord of the Rings, Book II, Chapter I - Many Meetings.

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                  • #10
                    Martin.....Who?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by twranger View Post
                      Fulham

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by twranger View Post
                        Fulham
                        Historically???

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                        • #13
                          All depends on the criteria.Arsenal i guess number 1,due to history.But,alas,you could put Chelsea at number 1.I dont see have as many gooners around in the red shirt as say 10-15 years ago.All i see,wherever i go,is Chelsea shirts,flags,car stickers etc etc,(especially if you live in NW,W,SW London)Even outside i London you can't escape.Was on a train coming home to London a few years ago,and loads of them got on at Stafford,going to a midweek game.Go to Kingston on a Saturday afternoon shopping,they are everwhere(they even have a Chelsea shop there)the same goes for most of Surrey.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by blueboy View Post
                            All depends on the criteria.Arsenal i guess number 1,due to history.But,alas,you could put Chelsea at number 1.I dont see have as many gooners around in the red shirt as say 10-15 years ago.All i see,wherever i go,is Chelsea shirts,flags,car stickers etc etc,(especially if you live in NW,W,SW London)Even outside i London you can't escape.Was on a train coming home to London a few years ago,and loads of them got on at Stafford,going to a midweek game.Go to Kingston on a Saturday afternoon shopping,they are everwhere(they even have a Chelsea shop there)the same goes for most of Surrey.
                            It makes me feel sick. When I encounter Chelsea fans out and about I call them C unts as I pass im going to get chinned sooner or later

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by West Acton View Post
                              It makes me feel sick. When I encounter Chelsea fans out and about I call them C unts as I pass im going to get chinned sooner or later
                              i have to admit,it does wind me up

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