Who is to blame for this year's mess: Poll?

[dsqpr]

If you think the Board are responsible then every Board of every club has to be credited with every success and every failure of their team. In other words, the Glaziers deserve the credit for Man U's championship this season, not Alex Ferguson or the players (the Board chose to retain Ferguson as manager and he picked the players).

It is fair to blame the Board when failure is a direct result of their policies. As it is, the policies of the QPR Board seem to have been to hire experienced managers and give them money to spend. Hard to see how that policy is the cause of our relegation! They may well have agreed to pay some players more money than they deserve, but it is also hard to see how that was the cause of our relegation either!

(And, while relegation is an obvious set back, I don't see why it should be described as "this mess". I'm guardedly optimistic about how things are going to play out over the next few years. - Edit: I see now it is described as "this year's mess", which I guess is fair.)

[East London R]

The players without a doubt. SWP, Park, Hoilett, Adel, Onuoha, Diakite, Granero, Boswinga, Fabio, including Johnson and Zamora who admittedly have been injured most of the season have massively under performed.
Samba, in his short time of being here has not lived up to expectations either.

[blueboy]

where's Flavio on that list

[LoftusRoadLad]

Players for me. After all they train all week to play a game of football and get paid for it. Buck stops with them when the whistle goes.

[Shania]

The players.

[superhoop67]

Q who has the best win ratio at QPR MH or HR

[MattyRangers]

Q who has the best win ratio at QPR MH or HR

Hughes 23.53%. Arry 20.83%.

[blueboy]

Hughes 23.53%. Arry 20.83%.

its hard to judge on those figures as Harry inherited Hughes's team and had less time to work with them and bring in his own players.Harry has had one transfer window,Sparky had two

MH had 10 months,Harry currently on 5 months

[dave58]

Can't see how people can #### off the board? They put their money where their mouth was gave the manager as much support as they could all be it the wrong manager but what have they done wrong didn't see anyone slagging them when we were buying all the players, most fans were excited at the start that we'd assembled such a good squad other than A.F. So prob their only failing was sticking with Hughes too long?

[QPR_NW10]

Squirrel from Liverpool last season. He never came back to help out

[MYU]

Can't see how people can #### off the board? They put their money where their mouth was gave the manager as much support as they could all be it the wrong manager but what have they done wrong didn't see anyone slagging them when we were buying all the players, most fans were excited at the start that we'd assembled such a good squad other than A.F. So prob their only failing was sticking with Hughes too long?

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't swap the current board for anyone else and they will make us better long term. I think they trusted the wrong people, however they did everything else right. Who in football today backs the manager as much as our board did?

It's mainly MH and the players that put us here.

[James1979]

Can't see how people can #### off the board? They put their money where their mouth was gave the manager as much support as they could all be it the wrong manager but what have they done wrong didn't see anyone slagging them when we were buying all the players, most fans were excited at the start that we'd assembled such a good squad other than A.F. So prob their only failing was sticking with Hughes too long?

Completely agree. Board have just backed managers they've installed. They didn't choose players or pick team, tactics. We'd be moaning at them if they'd given hughes and redknapp no money to spend. Or if they'd said, you can't buy Samba he's rubbish and too expensive for example. Can you imagine reaction if Harry had done one of his car window interviews "thought samba was in bag but board decided was little too much for them".....be ****** uproar on here.

[brightonr]

A combination of players, board and management. Can't believe a certain person was missing from that list.

[TBLOCKRANGER]

If you think the Board are responsible then every Board of every club has to be credited with every success and every failure of their team. In other words, the Glaziers deserve the credit for Man U's championship this season, not Alex Ferguson or the players (the Board chose to retain Ferguson as manager and he picked the players).

It is fair to blame the Board when failure is a direct result of their policies. As it is, the policies of the QPR Board seem to have been to hire experienced managers and give them money to spend. Hard to see how that policy is the cause of our relegation! They may well have agreed to pay some players more money than they deserve, but it is also hard to see how that was the cause of our relegation either!

(And, while relegation is an obvious set back, I don't see why it should be described as "this mess". I'm guardedly optimistic about how things are going to play out over the next few years. - Edit: I see now it is described as "this year's mess", which I guess is fair.)

In part I agree with you in that previous chairmen have been accused of being too interfering and unsupportive, when however TF supports his managers and has a hands off approach he is accused of lacking leadership, in a sense it's a no win for him.

The problem I do however have with TFs tenure as Chairman is the culture he's created and it must be due to him as its his club. Agents have flourished with little if any return for the club, what we paid agents isn't that far off what city paid, we ended up with Andy Johnson they get Ageuro. The culture has also led to spiralling debt and unchecked wages, I've heard we pay 92p on players salaries on every pound the club get in. Also these grand plans for 40k stadium Donald Trump style complex gives the impression that money is no object and £90m debt for a club our size is not important because the club has a "bigger picture".

From the top down, it does give the impression that living for the day is important and not living within our means, therefore you can understand why both MH and Arry threw so much money and in the formers case was so unregulated.

[silvercue]

How people can blame anyone other than those running the club is beyond me.

Just because TF is a nice guy and some people are putting money in and they are good in OTHER businesses does not mean they are doing well. They are failing totally and utterly. They have turned the biggest asset a club needs now, money, into a negative force. They set the devisive wages, not the managers ...oh and they choose the managers and ultimately kept MH way too long (TF choice).

Just becuase TF is a nice guy and uses Twitter does not mean he has a clue about running a football club. A rival to the one he supports at that.

Blaming MH is ridiculous as his activity was sanctioned by the board.

Blaming Harry is ridiculous as he didn't have much to work with.

Sure - lots of people have contributed to our downfall, including MH and HR and the players, but TF and the Board have to take responsibility.

I don't want them to leave, but I sure want them to LEARN.