the 4th official

[willis1980]

i dont get it. macmanaman commits an awful tackle and kone scores off a hand ball a few weeks ago, the ref maintains he didnt see it no further action. dowd didnt see zamora challenge but confers with 4th official to red card him. double hand ball today by wigan in the first half an a hand ball before the free kick that led to the goal, then ridgwells hand ball vs wba and their dubious goal. my point is, that if the 4th official has a hand in the game where doesit begin and end??? some clarity is needed i think, either the 4th official plays a role or doesnt.

[Kit]

He plays a role when it suits, what also really upsets me is the hypocrisy of managers and players, yes Zamora was a red but Gomez ducked into the tackle, yet Martinez quotes it as an absolutely appalling challenge and Gomez is very very lucky not to be seriously injured, just 2 weeks after the assault he witnessed at Wigan v Newcastle, which he and his chairman thought was a decent challenge...........just lose all respect for them.

[72bus]

martinez only sees what he wants to see , most managers will never condemn there own players

[Wolfy]

The Linesman made the decision. From my seat yo can see Dowd ask the linesman twice the same question and he nodded yes

[willis1980]

The Linesman made the decision. From my seat yo can see Dowd ask the linesman twice the same question and he nodded yes

this is thesame lino that saw us offside 3 times in the 1st half when we werent and didnt see wigan offside on 4 occasions in the 2nd half along with 3 wigan hand balls (2 in the penalty area). inept caant. these twunts are paid huge wages for what they do, yet cant keep fit and are above criticism yet anyone one of us is held accountable for poor performance in the workplace.

[THE CAT]

The Linesman made the decision. From my seat yo can see Dowd ask the linesman twice the same question and he nodded yes

That's the thing that gets me. I didn't see it at the game, but when I got home watched it, and there was no way Dowd was going to send Zamora off initially.

He consulted with the lino, and on his say so he gets the red out. Fair enough if he didn't see it, but he was looking straight at it, therefore has to go with his own decision otherwise what's the point of having a ref at all.

A yellow card would have been sufficient as there was no real intent there, and Gomez was ducking down slightly.

[Rangers77]

Gomez made an absolute meal of it. Silly act by Zamora, but Wigan player got him sent off. Minimal contact, no injury whatsoever, but that's modern football.

[scuberry]

this is thesame lino that saw us offside 3 times in the 1st half when we werent and didnt see wigan offside on 4 occasions in the 2nd half along with 3 wigan hand balls (2 in the penalty area). inept caant. these twunts are paid huge wages for what they do, yet cant keep fit and are above criticism yet anyone one of us is held accountable for poor performance in the workplace.

At least we won't have to put up with all these dodgy decisions in the championship will we

[willis1980]

At least we won't have to put up with all these dodgy decisions in the championship will we

for some reason i take it in the lower leagues but i expect more from officials in what is touted as the best league in the world

[clubandcountry]

i thought it was a sending off but the ref wasn't gonna send him off until the linesman said it was a red! the linesman didn't flag for the incident and was in a worse position than the ref, ........

[QPRDave]

Said the same thing how can the 4th official be getting involved?...For him to be mouthing off what happened he must have watched a replay, yet we're told the other week tv replays can't be used.......you can say what you like but i don't think the FA have ever wanted us in their "jewel in the crown" division, since Faurlingate. And before i get the usual "its coz were cr*p we're bottom" ....i think rubbish reffing contributes as much to our situation as rubbish play

[willis1980]

im pretty certain it was referred to the fourth official just like the barton headbutt that never was vs naarich, you see the 2 of them fiddling with their headsets. its the type of foul that you see a yellow or red for and sometimes nothing at all. its the kind ofthing stoke players get a talking to for

[willis1980]

Said the same thing how can the 4th official be getting involved?...For him to be mouthing off what happened he must have watched a replay, yet we're told the other week tv replays can't be used.......you can say what you like but i don't think the FA have ever wanted us in their "jewel in the crown" division, since Faurlingate. And before i get the usual "its coz were cr*p we're bottom" ....i think rubbish reffing contributes as much to our situation as rubbish play

arteta offside goal vs arsenal
ridgewell hand ball vs wba
wba shoving green into goal (if we were top 4 it never wouldve been given)
any others this season you can think of?

[QPRDave]

spurs goal whl foul in the centre circle
Williams punching the ball clear swans....i can't think of any others off hand..but we don't get the same calls others do

[willis1980]

spurs goal whl foul in the centre circle
Williams punching the ball clear swans....i can't think of any others off hand..but we don't get the same calls others do

sh1t i forgot about williams
berbatov going ape = no booking