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Would one of the "positive brigade" kindly explain the logic in thinking that this pathetic bunch, along with their vastly overrated manager, can make up the points gap.
Failure to beat West Ham away, down to being too defensive.
Failure to beat Norwich at home, down to playing without a fit striker.
Conceding 3 goals per game against such potent attacking threats such as Villa and Fulham.
Minimum of 8 points given away in those games alone. The games where it mattered. The 8 points which would see the bookies showing us odds on for survival.
Very, very poor management, tactics and performances. The usual failure to deliver when required.
Easily the worst two consecutive seasons I have witnessed in over 40 years.
Of course it is possible to get the points required, but this lot haven't a hope.
If you look at all the other games teams around us there's load of six pointers twists and turns yet. On this forum everyone has accepted relegation, I have not!!
How stupid can people be saying we r relegated when there's 21pts left?
Look at the other teams fixtures!!! Before commenting on this post
We will stay up I know it!!!!!!
how stupid can some people be that we have only won 4 games out of 30 and they expect us to win 5 games out of the last 7.
Would one of the "positive brigade" kindly explain the logic in thinking that this pathetic bunch, along with their vastly overrated manager, can make up the points gap.
Failure to beat West Ham away, down to being too defensive.
Failure to beat Norwich at home, down to playing without a fit striker.
Conceding 3 goals per game against such potent attacking threats such as Villa and Fulham.
Minimum of 8 points given away in those games alone. The games where it mattered. The 8 points which would see the bookies showing us odds on for survival.
Very, very poor management, tactics and performances. The usual failure to deliver when required.
Easily the worst two consecutive seasons I have witnessed in over 40 years.
Of course it is possible to get the points required, but this lot haven't a hope.
Cant really argue too much with the above.
Had Redknapp selected Bothroyd to partner Remy, or even Mackie in the games aganst West Ham and Norwich QPR would have had a better chance of winning those and those 4 points would have made a huge difference.
Also, if QPR had defended better in the last two games QPR would have picked up a minimum of 2 draws.
This set of results would paint a much brighter picture, however those games are done and dusted with.
It is not impossible to win 4 of the remaining fixtures (although not really likely given how the seasn has gone for QPR), but even then QPR are still likely to need to draw one or two as well.
Just to give myself a better understanding of the task ahead, I attempted the BBC predictor and put in 3 wins 3draws for QPR, plus a number of defeats for Norwich, Wigan, Sunderland and Villa, and they still got relegated.
It's stating the bleeding obvious but for QPR to win games, the defence will need to defend much better than they have been doing of late and Remy, Zamora and others will need to keep scoring - they've had huge problems with both these areas all season and the chances of them both coming good at the same time are not really likely.
I resigned myself to relegation after the Norwich game, which for me was a great chance to build on the Chelsea win and draws with Spurs West Ham and Man City. The defeat at Swansea that followed all but confirmed it for me.
When QPR got relegated to the 3rd tier in 2001, QPR won back to back wins under Gerry Francis and fans' hopes of an escape were raised, but then came crashing down after a 5-0 loss at Preston (I think). He resigned and Holloway took over and QPR lost nearly all of the remaining 13 fixtures.
The remaining fixtures now, are just as winnable as those of 2001 were, but I am not going to raise my hopes of survival again.
Had Redknapp selected Bothroyd to partner Remy, or even Mackie in the games aganst West Ham and Norwich QPR would have had a better chance of winning those and those 4 points would have made a huge difference.
Also, if QPR had defended better in the last two games QPR would have picked up a minimum of 2 draws.
This set of results would paint a much brighter picture, however those games are done and dusted with.
It is not impossible to win 4 of the remaining fixtures (although not really likely given how the seasn has gone for QPR), but even then QPR are still likely to need to draw one or two as well.
Just to give myself a better understanding of the task ahead, I attempted the BBC predictor and put in 3 wins 3draws for QPR, plus a number of defeats for Norwich, Wigan, Sunderland and Villa, and they still got relegated.
It's stating the bleeding obvious but for QPR to win games, the defence will need to defend much better than they have been doing of late and Remy, Zamora and others will need to keep scoring - they've had huge problems with both these areas all season and the chances of them both coming good at the same time are not really likely.
I resigned myself to relegation after the Norwich game, which for me was a great chance to build on the Chelsea win and draws with Spurs West Ham and Man City. The defeat at Swansea that followed all but confirmed it for me.
When QPR got relegated to the 3rd tier in 2001, QPR won back to back wins under Gerry Francis and fans' hopes of an escape were raised, but then came crashing down after a 5-0 loss at Preston (I think). He resigned and Holloway took over and QPR lost nearly all of the remaining 13 fixtures.
The remaining fixtures now, are just as winnable as those of 2001 were, but I am not going to raise my hopes of survival again.
I'd go back as far as the three games after winning against Fulham. To fail to build on that and then lose to Newcastle, West Brom and Liverpool was criminal. We deserve to go down just for that...
Everyone will all have their point of realization during a relegation season. Mine was losing to Villa and many people were earlier than that, some it was last night.
How anyone now can really think we will stay up is beyond me.
It is nothing to do with being positive or negative or a better, more supportive fan at this stage. It would have been negative to say we are doomed after 5 games. With so few left it is just stating an opinion based on the evidence around you.
I'd go back as far as the three games after winning against Fulham. To fail to build on that and then lose to Newcastle, West Brom and Liverpool was criminal. We deserve to go down just for that...
The performance at Newcastle was extremely negative but I guess that Redknapp was looking for draws in December until he could bring in his players. He almost got away with it.
The West Brom game he can point to lousy decisions. Most refs would have given a foul against Fortune for the 2nd goal and most assistants would have seen the Ridgewell handball (and many have done so this season before and after that one).
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