Tony: My lifelong commitment

[LBLOCK]

Mate don't even bother with some of these on here. I don't even give them the time of day... Like Tony should on twitter - just ignore the muppets.

Muppets..... arent they usually controlled puppets who dont question their owners?

[HoopDoggyDogg]

I love Tony, and we couldn't have anyone better.
He cares so much about the club and us fans, and that's hard to find these days in a football club owner.
If we go down then we have someone that won't walk away.
I will be glad to see the back of this season, whether we stay up or not.

Really hope we stay up this season, as I think the whole nation wants to see us go down

[vespa]

I love Tony, and we couldn't have anyone better.
He cares so much about the club and us fans, and that's hard to find these days in a football club owner.
If we go down then we have someone that won't walk away.
I will be glad to see the back of this season, whether we stay up or not.

Really hope we stay up this season, as I think the whole nation wants to see us go down

i`m pleased you love Tony ,
but , why do you think he cares so much about a club he`s got no history with ?
Why does he care so much about the fans ? ( didnt give a f uck about moving our hardcore out of the Lower Loft ,did he ? )
Why are you so sure he wont walk away ? ( i hope he dosnt , because were f ucked if he does , because he`s spent so much more then our club could ever afford to pay )
Mate , i`m worried for our future ,
I dont like QPR being a rich , foreign ,businessman`s plaything ( even if he is a " nice bloke ".

[HoopDoggyDogg]

i`m pleased you love Tony ,
but , why do you think he cares so much about a club he`s got no history with ?
Why does he care so much about the fans ? ( didnt give a f uck about moving our hardcore out of the Lower Loft ,did he ? )
Why are you so sure he wont walk away ? ( i hope he dosnt , because were f ucked if he does , because he`s spent so much more then our club could ever afford to pay )
Mate , i`m worried for our future ,
I dont like QPR being a rich , foreign ,businessman`s plaything ( even if he is a " nice bloke ".

He won't walk away cos he ain't a quitter.
By saying he will be here for the long term he means it.
He will be here for years, unless we push him out.
QPR was a plaything for Tango and Eccles Cake, Tony has picked up there mess and trying to bring stability to the club.

[dsqpr]

Most of the answers are just in this thread alone. It really doesn't need spelling out all over again.

In a nutshell, incredible naivety, lack of nous and experience when it comes to dealing with contracts, signings, agents, players, managers etc etc. But you can't blame Beard for accepting a job offer which he was completely under-qualified for. The Championship is a totally different kettle of fish too, so he'll be even more need of experienced help if we go down.

There are no answers in this thread. And what you have said above are just your complaints about your perception of his lack of qualifications for the job, and it contains not one single word about how his actions have adversely affected the club.

I don't know much about Phil Beard which is why I was asking. I'm not defending him but nothing you have said leads me to believe he is not up to the job or that he was a poor appointment. Football is a business. You need to invest to be successful and having a CEO who is a businessman rather than a "football man" does make sense. Smart directors will take the advice of football people on which players to invest in and so far as I can see that is exactly what we have done. Many of those players have unfortunately not worked out but that is due to the Directors getting bad advice from the "football people" they trusted. It takes a while to build something. It will take TF time to get the right people in the right positions. We have to be patient. If he is up to the job then things will turn around. In the meantime, we may well (probably will now) have to deal with relegation.

On the topic of a new stadium, I will say this. TF is a man with a dream and a vision for the future. We are very lucky that we are in it but it isn't going to happen overnight! So far as I can see, part of that dream is for us to be an established Premier League club and SURELY, there is not one single person on this board who thinks we can do that in a stadium with a capacity of 18,000 (and the associated limited revenue potential). Since we can't make LR bigger, we do need a new stadium. As for whether we will fill it, on day one, no. But the demand for Premier League football in London currently exceeds the supply, as can be seen by the difficulty in getting tickets at Arsenal. Having a new stadium would attract new fans and increase our attendances, just as it has at Fulham, with their improved facilities. The key is for the demand to be there, and right now it is.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the Tony Fernandes Project develops and the fact that the first two seasons have been a struggle on the pitch, while disappointing for all of us, does not mean that the future won't be a whole lot better.

[HoopDoggyDogg]

On the point of new stadium, has anything ever been said about what the capacity could be ?
We all think it may be a huge stadium that we won't fill, but it doesn't have to be 50,000 capacity!!

I think the New Stadium could be maybe 30,000 capacity, retractable roof etc,
Basically a state of the art stadium/ venue that could cater for concerts etc as well as accommodating the fan base as well.

[NW9_RANGER]

Muppets..... arent they usually controlled puppets who dont question their owners?

touché lol

[casuallyqpr]

i`m pleased you love Tony ,
but , why do you think he cares so much about a club he`s got no history with ?
Why does he care so much about the fans ? ( didnt give a f uck about moving our hardcore out of the Lower Loft ,did he ? )
Why are you so sure he wont walk away ? ( i hope he dosnt , because were f ucked if he does , because he`s spent so much more then our club could ever afford to pay )
Mate , i`m worried for our future ,
I dont like QPR being a rich , foreign ,businessman`s plaything ( even if he is a " nice bloke ".

Good post
The blind faith of some of our fans is truly worrying, havent we seen enough owners **** us over t be a bit cautious.

Tony has all the mouth but since he got involved we have gone backwards and his companys have gone forward. I dont trust the bloke I hate how him and beard preach to us about whats best for the club when they have been here
For 5 minutes and in that time made so many mistakes.

And this 45 000 seater stadium/complex.... we only sold out about 6 games in our promotion season for **** sake.

We are a small club with an even smaller fan base and there is nothing wrong with that.

[Buffalo]

Good post
The blind faith of some of our fans is truly worrying, havent we seen enough owners **** us over t be a bit cautious.

Tony has all the mouth but since he got involved we have gone backwards and his companys have gone forward. I dont trust the bloke I hate how him and beard preach to us about whats best for the club when they have been here
For 5 minutes and in that time made so many mistakes.

And this 45 000 seater stadium/complex.... we only sold out about 6 games in our promotion season for **** sake.

We are a small club with an even smaller fan base and there is nothing wrong with that.

Nothing wrong with trying to better yourself either though IMO.

[THE CAT]

[QUOTE=casuallyqpr;1052357]Good post
The blind faith of some of our fans is truly worrying, havent we seen enough owners **** us over t be a bit cautious.

Tony has all the mouth but since he got involved we have gone backwards and his companys have gone forward. I dont trust the bloke I hate how him and beard preach to us about whats best for the club when they have been here
For 5 minutes and in that time made so many mistakes.

It's not blind faith at all. People have seen what he has done since he has been here and he has honoured everything he has promised off the field. Therefore that "blind" faith has been instilled by this. You could say that people that are consistently doubting his motives and his direction are the blind ones, and just interested in constant moaning.

He was let down by Hughes without question, and his mistake of keeping him on too long was driven by his desire for stability, which nearly everyone wanted.

Look, if we were mid-table no-one would be moaning about Tony, but because the players/manager have not delivered and we are where we are, some people have to have a scapegoat. Its just unfortunate that this scapegoat seems to be the one shining light that we have at the club at the moment.

[Rebel R's]

youll still get posters here claiming he will leave if we go down....

Who exactly?

[vblockranger]

How did Harry put it "i feel for the owners as they have had their trousers pulled down" ...so somebody is culpable. Somebody agreed to pay all these players huge wages. Somebody agreed to practically replace all our promotion winning players with dross. Now did that somebody take bad advice? probably. Was that advice taken from somebody employed to give advice? probably. Been a total coq up of immense proportions these past two seasons. Either Phil or Tony himself is ultimately responsible. Clubs like Norwich and Swansea did it the old tried and trusted way by slowly and surely improving. Our policy was to chuck money at it and that policy has cost us. Not saying Tony has got to be hung drawn and quartered or abused on twitter or nonsense such as that as we have to hope he has learnt by his mistakes (and the fact that now because of his faliure we are totally reliant on him staying and funding the dross we have on huge wages). All these "In Tony i Trust" slogans are laughable tho..as is the "Tony loves our club" statements :-). Tony isnt a fan, he is here to make money (failed) and use the club as a marketing vehicle for his airline (success). As for the other stuff and the promises i think a few less soundbites and a few less tweets and some actual work started on "projects" would benefit his failing image more.

[Shania]

what we need now is STABILITY.
Besides, who have given us a divine right to suceed in the prem at the first attempt, when we because of Tango and Cash maybe have the worst reputation of all english clubs?? Until now, to get good contracts, players and agent(s) respectively have benefitted from this, but it would surprise me a lot if this continues. For the future, I guess we will experience a different Philip Beard when it comes to negotiating, but those who blame him for spending too much money on, what they say are "mercenaries" have to atleast acknowledge the fact that they came to us with a good reputation.
Park and Bosingwa are just two excamples.

[vblockranger]

what we need now is STABILITY.
Besides, who have given us a divine right to suceed in the prem at the first attempt, when we because of Tango and Cash maybe have the worst reputation of all english clubs?? Until now, to get good contracts, players and agent(s) respectively have benefitted from this, but it would surprise me a lot if this continues. For the future, I guess we will experience a different Philip Beard when it comes to negotiating, but those who blame him for spending too much money on, what they say are "mercenaries" have to atleast acknowledge the fact that they came to us with a good reputation.
Park and Bosingwa are just two excamples.

Both players gonna be up there in "Worst player of the season" poll in a couple of months as it stands.

[Shania]

Both players gonna be up there in "Worst player of the season" poll in a couple of months as it stands.

My point was that no-one could really predict this when they signed. Another thing is that both of them on the whole have improved like the rest of the team have.