Ramsey Out or Ramsey In?

[fisnik]

Call me old fashioned but I'd rather not change managers every 5 minutes. I'd give a manager at least a full season before we can find out how things are progressing.

[Fordy]

Having experienced the likes of Holloway, Waddock, Gregory, De Canio, Dowie, Magilton, Sousa, Hart, Harford, Warnock, Hughes and Redknapp and that's just in the last 10 years, I think QPR fans have some idea what a decent manager is like. For me Warnock was the pick of the bunch, Holloway was fantastic and Magilton, Dowie and De Canio were decent. Hughes was on some kind of ego trip and we all know about Harry.

What marked out our best managers was passion, leadership, determination, a knack with the players, the fans and the press alike, an assuredness that made me feel confident (or at least excited) when they were in charge, and of course the ability to translate all that into results on the pitch. With Ramsey, there seems to be something lacking in those departments. Whether it's because this is his first managerial role, I don't know, but it doesn't not surprise me one bit that people are voicing concerns. We've been through the mill with managers and we're rightly fed up with it. Now, the difficult question, which this thread poses, is how long do you give him if results don't go our way? At the moment it's just that, a big IF. All we have to go on right now is last season, where Ramsey inherited a relegation-bound side riddled with inner conflicts (if people like Joey are to be believed) and low on confidence. So on that basis, it's hard to judge. However, there were decisions that smacked of inexperience, and as far as I'm concerned, we're still seeing them. If it is the case that Ramsey eventually comes good, will it be at Ranger's expense?

The trouble is there are so many other factors at bay. We're still suffering the aftershocks of an awful 4 years of mismanagement and ineptitude on behalf of Tony Fernandes, that has seen our club become an embarrassment. The pre-season shows this process is far from over. Ramsey may come good and turn things round. But then again he might not. All I can say right now is he doesn't fill me with confidence and I think a good manager should do that. In terms of how long if things don't go right, well surely it will be obvious by Xmas, one way or the other? It would certainly be crazy to sack him now!

Mate I loved De Canio. The football we played under him was brilliant to watch, attacking every team we come up against. Miss those days.

[Shepherds Mush]

Mate I loved De Canio. The football we played under him was brilliant to watch, attacking every team we come up against. Miss those days.

Lots of fluent attacking play...quality days. Didn't matter that we lost or drew as many as we won as we really took it to teams.

[Stanley]

10 games is the standard yardstick - it's a sensible and prudent amount of time to give him considering it's his squad now; so he'll really have no excuses if he and the players are still floundering after that amount of time.

[QPR Rickson]

Karma's come back to bite me this season . I spent all last season taking the mick out of the Tarquin mates of mine. Saying I wanted Felix magath to stay. I've been getting the same Texs back now with them wanting ramshackle to carry on improving his defeat percentage. Embarrassing times ahead.

[Loneranger80]

surely the problem is more deep rooted at the club than just always the managers fault... CR wasnt by any means my choice.. but the club have to standby him for longer than 1/2 a season..

[SteveQPR1975]

Voted 3-6 but would give Ramsey until after the Rotherham result which is a must win or sack

[SteveQPR1975]

Didn't claridge get sacked after 1 game lol

[SteveQPR1975]

Call me old fashioned but I'd rather not change managers every 5 minutes. I'd give a manager at least a full season before we can find out how things are progressing.

League 1 no thanks

[Geng]

Embarrassing thread. It's this sort of short-term cry baby behaviour that meant we got stuck with Harry Redknapp last time round.

Is that what we want? When we're mid-table in October everyone cries so loudly about not getting their precious promotion race we'll end up being managed by whoever the latest media-friendly unemployed "saviour" happens to be, only for Fat Sam or whoever to spunk more millions on yet more players while the club continues to stagnate.

I don't think Ramsey didn't an especially great job last year, and leaving Karl Henry on instead of Taarabt in the West Ham game was outright criminal, but you can't give the guy a whole summer to work on this and then get rid of him after one game.

Jesus, some people.

[Hertford Hoop]

If we wait until Christmas its more or less the same as Rednappy and Sparkless. IF CR fails then TF should act quickly, 10 games is enough for me

[Geng]

If you're dumb enough to think sacking our manager now and replacing him with whoever Tony happens to have on his X-box contacts list is going to seriously work, you're probably beyond helping.

When will you guys finally wake up and notice the real problem?

[Loneranger80]

If you're dumb enough to think sacking our manager now and replacing him with whoever Tony happens to have on his X-box contacts list is going to seriously work, you're probably beyond helping.

When will you guys finally wake up and notice the real problem?

exactly what i said the problem lies deeper than just another under performing manager... there is a problem somewhere...

[QPR Rickson]

If you're dumb enough to think sacking our manager now and replacing him with whoever Tony happens to have on his X-box contacts list is going to seriously work, you're probably beyond helping.

When will you guys finally wake up and notice the real problem?

We're going nowhere with ramshackle. And you can take that to the bank. Couldn't even Nick a draw with that team he had v some 2 bob charlton side. The happy clappers will change there mind soon anough.

[WE ARE QPR!]

They will be baying for Ramsey's blood at HQ on Saturday if we lose to Yeovil & the Taffs! I hope that idiot TF has Warnock on speed dial!!