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  • #31
    Originally posted by FurtiveFox View Post
    Never been a fan of 'Arry and would have been happy for him to go after West Ham if not sometime last season. Football has been dire most of time he has been with us.

    I personally don't think he or the players expected the backlash and the large percentage of fans wanting him out as evidenced by various polls. It shocked them to the core and we had a number of players coming out in support. In other words it gave them all a massive kick up the jacksy and they have responded on the pitch. If it continues and we keep the habit of playing well he should stay but if it is a mini-oasis and we revert back to before he needs to go. I wouldn't get rid of him at moment though. Team playing well and looking motivated. Very different to being the side in the Premiership that was covering less ground that any other team.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by ArthurQPR_NYC View Post
      mary mother of christ that was dug in there like a tick!
      I'm a lawyer. I don't give simple yes and no answers!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by The Merry Ploughboy View Post
        Needs to be looked at around Christmas in my view, and definitely replaced at the end of the season.
        This.
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        • #34
          Four games is a bit too soon to say he's turned things round entirely. If a guy who had done a really good job over the previous two seasons suddenly had four terrible games he shouldn't be sacked, and the same thing works in reverse.

          Our terrible start to the season - not looking fit, prepared or interested, let alone good enough - lowered expectations to the point where people became very easily pleased by stuff that should be taken for granted from a newly promoted side: seeming fit, interested, well prepared. We've accomplished that now and we're on a good run, Harry's picked a solid XI, decent tactics, seem prepared for each game etc. But this is still only exactly what you should expect from a PL side with a decent budget and lots of good players - everyone has a run of form like this at some point!

          I wouldn't sack him tomorrow or anything as we're on a very good run of form, if not results. But it's way too early to start crowing about Arry being right all along.

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          • #35
            And then stuff like the Jermaine Defoe story reminds you Harry still doesn't give two shets about the club long-term

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Hertford Hoop View Post
              Wait for the next thumping and or lacklustre performance then ask
              Exactly - the Bi Polar nature of this board has never been more acute as in this thread!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by FurtiveFox View Post
                I'm a lawyer. I don't give simple yes and no answers!
                YEP.
                Neither would i at a fiver a word, that will be 75 guineas please.
                Last edited by Manx Hoop; 11-11-2014, 02:11 PM.

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                • #38
                  The West Ham game was my trigger to jump on the Harry out bandwagon as that was a diabolical performance and you could just not see any change coming. Jumped off it again after Liverpool.

                  Can't see any point in changing the manager at all unless we are well off the pace of 17th, which we aren't.

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                  • #39
                    I was listening to TalkSport the other night. Was Dean Ashton and another chap (who played under Harry - can't remember name now). They were commenting on how much they'd enjoyed playing for him (other player described himself as a 'massive fan'), his positive involvement on the coaching side, and the feeling of togetherness he brought within the squad. They also commented that tactically he's far better than he's made out - he's stereotyped by his 'wheeler dealer oldschool image' Then I listen to many Spurs fans who seem they'd take him back in a flash.

                    Then I come on here and read opinion from folks who've obviously never worked with him, have no real clue what he's really like behind the scenes etc, but have summarised he's rubbish and needs to go (at some point up to and including the end of the season)

                    I'm not saying he's the world's best football manager, but he's clearly pretty decent (how long has he been a manager?) and I'm really not sure who we'd expect to be able to recruit that's better...

                    Great to have Sir Les, but I don't think he's anyway near as involved on the coaching side (if at all) as some folks are making out. Obviously we have Hoddle, who's far more involved. Harry has put together a formidable back room team, to be honest, but wait - yep he's still rubbish.

                    No pleasing some
                    Last edited by Snaxo; 11-11-2014, 04:35 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Snaxo View Post
                      I was listening to TalkSport the other night. Was Dean Ashton and another chap (who played under Harry - can't remember name now). They were commenting on how much they'd enjoyed playing for him (other player described himself as a 'massive fan'), his positive involvement on the coaching side, and the feeling of togetherness he brought within the squad. They also commented that tactically he's far better than he's made out - he's stereotyped by his 'wheeler dealer oldschool image' Then I listen to many Spurs fans who seem they'd take him back in a flash.

                      Then I come on here and read opinion from folks who've obviously never worked with him, have no real clue what he's really like behind the scenes etc, but have summarised he's rubbish and needs to go (at some point up to and including the end of the season)

                      I'm not saying he's the world's best football manager, but he's clearly pretty decent (how long has he been a manager?) and I'm really not sure who we'd expect to be able to recruit that's better...

                      Great to have Sir Les, but I don't think he's anyway near as involved on the football side as some folks are making out. Obviously we have Hoddle, who's far more involved. Harry has put together a formidable back room team, to be honest, but wait - yep he's still rubbish.

                      No pleasing some
                      Good post snaxo
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                      • #41
                        Its funny what winning games and putting in good performances does though aint it..

                        Not a word of Tony's chairmanship and HR's management in the media since the improved Liverpool display.
                        The media are like fvcking circling vultures, waiting for QPR to fvck up so they can dig the knife in.

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                        • #42
                          ^^Funny that you'd take the word of someone who is obviously on good terms with Arry when it is well documented that he does little to nothing on the training pitch.

                          The last 4 games have been positive so it makes no sense replacing Redknapp now. Regardless, I don't think we've overachieved considering the squad (midfield) we've got... Whatever happens I think it's best he makes way for another coach at the end of the season - I do not trust Arry to secure a stable future for the club. Sadly this coach will probably be Tim Sherwood.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Snaxo View Post
                            I was listening to TalkSport the other night. Was Dean Ashton and another chap (who played under Harry - can't remember name now). They were commenting on how much they'd enjoyed playing for him (other player described himself as a 'massive fan'), his positive involvement on the coaching side, and the feeling of togetherness he brought within the squad. They also commented that tactically he's far better than he's made out - he's stereotyped by his 'wheeler dealer oldschool image' Then I listen to many Spurs fans who seem they'd take him back in a flash.

                            Then I come on here and read opinion from folks who've obviously never worked with him, have no real clue what he's really like behind the scenes etc, but have summarised he's rubbish and needs to go (at some point up to and including the end of the season)

                            I'm not saying he's the world's best football manager, but he's clearly pretty decent (how long has he been a manager?) and I'm really not sure who we'd expect to be able to recruit that's better...

                            Great to have Sir Les, but I don't think he's anyway near as involved on the coaching side (if at all) as some folks are making out. Obviously we have Hoddle, who's far more involved. Harry has put together a formidable back room team, to be honest, but wait - yep he's still rubbish.

                            No pleasing some
                            This is a good post and I'm not having a go, but I could not give a tinker's damn whether the players are in love with their manager. All I care about is how we play and points on the board. I have sat through HR getting us relegated after dire performances and failure to gain the necessary points when that is what he was hired to do, finishing 4th in the Championship after a season of dire performances (of course deserves credit for getting us up, even if it was via the lottery of the play offs) and now better recent performances but 8 points from 11 matches (6 at home) and second from bottom. Even the recent matches where his team actually seems to have started trying have yielded only 4 points from 4 matches and 3 of those matches were at home! Not to mention he is the biggest excuse factory I have ever seen. It's not hard to see why I'm not a fan.
                            Last edited by dsqpr; 11-11-2014, 05:04 PM.
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                            • #44
                              For what it`s wort I think the last 4 performances have been...dare I say it...Pulis-esque, meaning we all knew we had a good squad that was capable on the field yet Harry didn`t seem to realise it until it was almost too late for him, so he gave a few things a go and more importantly stuck with them for more than 1 game.
                              This must be the first time we`ve had a pretty settled starting 11 since he`s been here.
                              I`m neither H in or out, I just can`t make my mind up, but as long as these performances last he has to stay.

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                              • #45
                                I thought we had a settled starting eleven autumn 2013.

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