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Four games is a bit too soon to say he's turned things round entirely. If a guy who had done a really good job over the previous two seasons suddenly had four terrible games he shouldn't be sacked, and the same thing works in reverse.
Our terrible start to the season - not looking fit, prepared or interested, let alone good enough - lowered expectations to the point where people became very easily pleased by stuff that should be taken for granted from a newly promoted side: seeming fit, interested, well prepared. We've accomplished that now and we're on a good run, Harry's picked a solid XI, decent tactics, seem prepared for each game etc. But this is still only exactly what you should expect from a PL side with a decent budget and lots of good players - everyone has a run of form like this at some point!
I wouldn't sack him tomorrow or anything as we're on a very good run of form, if not results. But it's way too early to start crowing about Arry being right all along.
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The West Ham game was my trigger to jump on the Harry out bandwagon as that was a diabolical performance and you could just not see any change coming. Jumped off it again after Liverpool.
Can't see any point in changing the manager at all unless we are well off the pace of 17th, which we aren't.
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I was listening to TalkSport the other night. Was Dean Ashton and another chap (who played under Harry - can't remember name now). They were commenting on how much they'd enjoyed playing for him (other player described himself as a 'massive fan'), his positive involvement on the coaching side, and the feeling of togetherness he brought within the squad. They also commented that tactically he's far better than he's made out - he's stereotyped by his 'wheeler dealer oldschool image' Then I listen to many Spurs fans who seem they'd take him back in a flash.
Then I come on here and read opinion from folks who've obviously never worked with him, have no real clue what he's really like behind the scenes etc, but have summarised he's rubbish and needs to go (at some point up to and including the end of the season)
I'm not saying he's the world's best football manager, but he's clearly pretty decent (how long has he been a manager?) and I'm really not sure who we'd expect to be able to recruit that's better...
Great to have Sir Les, but I don't think he's anyway near as involved on the coaching side (if at all) as some folks are making out. Obviously we have Hoddle, who's far more involved. Harry has put together a formidable back room team, to be honest, but wait - yep he's still rubbish.
No pleasing someLast edited by Snaxo; 11-11-2014, 04:35 PM.
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Originally posted by Snaxo View PostI was listening to TalkSport the other night. Was Dean Ashton and another chap (who played under Harry - can't remember name now). They were commenting on how much they'd enjoyed playing for him (other player described himself as a 'massive fan'), his positive involvement on the coaching side, and the feeling of togetherness he brought within the squad. They also commented that tactically he's far better than he's made out - he's stereotyped by his 'wheeler dealer oldschool image' Then I listen to many Spurs fans who seem they'd take him back in a flash.
Then I come on here and read opinion from folks who've obviously never worked with him, have no real clue what he's really like behind the scenes etc, but have summarised he's rubbish and needs to go (at some point up to and including the end of the season)
I'm not saying he's the world's best football manager, but he's clearly pretty decent (how long has he been a manager?) and I'm really not sure who we'd expect to be able to recruit that's better...
Great to have Sir Les, but I don't think he's anyway near as involved on the football side as some folks are making out. Obviously we have Hoddle, who's far more involved. Harry has put together a formidable back room team, to be honest, but wait - yep he's still rubbish.
No pleasing someI blew a lot on vodka and tonic, gambling and fags. Looking back, I think I overdid it on the tonic. - The one and only Stanley Bowles
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^^Funny that you'd take the word of someone who is obviously on good terms with Arry when it is well documented that he does little to nothing on the training pitch.
The last 4 games have been positive so it makes no sense replacing Redknapp now. Regardless, I don't think we've overachieved considering the squad (midfield) we've got... Whatever happens I think it's best he makes way for another coach at the end of the season - I do not trust Arry to secure a stable future for the club. Sadly this coach will probably be Tim Sherwood.
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Originally posted by Snaxo View PostI was listening to TalkSport the other night. Was Dean Ashton and another chap (who played under Harry - can't remember name now). They were commenting on how much they'd enjoyed playing for him (other player described himself as a 'massive fan'), his positive involvement on the coaching side, and the feeling of togetherness he brought within the squad. They also commented that tactically he's far better than he's made out - he's stereotyped by his 'wheeler dealer oldschool image' Then I listen to many Spurs fans who seem they'd take him back in a flash.
Then I come on here and read opinion from folks who've obviously never worked with him, have no real clue what he's really like behind the scenes etc, but have summarised he's rubbish and needs to go (at some point up to and including the end of the season)
I'm not saying he's the world's best football manager, but he's clearly pretty decent (how long has he been a manager?) and I'm really not sure who we'd expect to be able to recruit that's better...
Great to have Sir Les, but I don't think he's anyway near as involved on the coaching side (if at all) as some folks are making out. Obviously we have Hoddle, who's far more involved. Harry has put together a formidable back room team, to be honest, but wait - yep he's still rubbish.
No pleasing someLast edited by dsqpr; 11-11-2014, 05:04 PM.'Only a Ranger!' cried Gandalf. 'My dear Frodo, that is just what the Rangers are: the last remnant in the South of the great people, the Men of West London.' - Lord of the Rings, Book II, Chapter I - Many Meetings.
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For what it`s wort I think the last 4 performances have been...dare I say it...Pulis-esque, meaning we all knew we had a good squad that was capable on the field yet Harry didn`t seem to realise it until it was almost too late for him, so he gave a few things a go and more importantly stuck with them for more than 1 game.
This must be the first time we`ve had a pretty settled starting 11 since he`s been here.
I`m neither H in or out, I just can`t make my mind up, but as long as these performances last he has to stay.
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