I would welcome him back If he changes his attitudes and focuses on football more than talking $hit about his move to big clubs.
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Originally posted by Yousef View PostI would welcome him back If he changes his attitudes and focuses on football more than talking $hit about his move to big clubs.Last edited by Tarbie; 09-07-2014, 11:51 AM.
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Originally posted by DeepcutHoop View PostJoey was no better than Adel in the Prem. Joey did really well last season in the Championship, and surprised me with his improvement in temperament. Let's not rewrite history though and suggest that an improved half a dozen games at the end of the season was 'cutting it at Premiership level'. Especially when that period of improvement ended with him losing his temper and getting sent off in a huge match, and then losing his **** altogether and getting a 12 match ban, which ended with us packing him off to France.
Barton struggled for most of that season, and picked up for the last few games. Adel was one of our most productive players in the Prem, despite being disappointing in terms of the expectations we all had for him, along with some silly tantrums.
The fans gave Barton a chance, and a thouroughly undeserved (at the time) heroes welcome. The poll suggests that most would give the same chance to Adel.
I would love to see him at Rangers again, he has given me far greater pleasure watching him in his pomp than everyone bar Les I think, I also think he has a genuine affection for the club, but I don't see him coming back while Harry is here. Too much history between them.
As Deepcut says Barton struggled every bit as much as Adel in the Prem. To turn the question round, how many great games did Barton have in the Prem? I remember he did really well at Wolves away (but they were virtually like a Championship side). Liverpool at home anyone, when he put in one of the worst midfield performances by a QPR player since Marcus Bean? Against the big clubs he looked at best bang average. Hope I'm proved wrong but I fear the Joey Fan Club might be in for a bit of a shock next season when they see him up against world class players. Fully accept Adel may never fulfill his potential and he seems to be a petulant sod, but at least he has potential - some of our players (Henry, O'Neil if he stays) will NEVER be more than they are now.
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Originally posted by FurtiveFox View PostI have some great memories of him from a few years back but so much has happened I don't even look on him as an Rs player. I doubt whether he does either. The only reason he's still here is nobody else will take him on. That to me speaks volumes if he is so great at the top level. He is here in name only.
Joey ... Also took balls to come back after the way he behaved towards us while at Marseilles. Could have sulked and refused and made it impossible. I actually think he has learned from it all.
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Theres a photo on the official facebook page of Taarabt getting his height checked with a QPR training top on. So I guess he has.Top Scorers 2018/2019
Nakhi Wells - 8
Pawel Wszolek - 6
Luke Freeman - 6
Matt Smith - 6
Ebere Eze - 4
Joel Lynch - 3
Tomer Hemed - 3
Toni Leistner - 2
Massimo Luongo- 2
Angel Rangel - 2
Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
Geoff Cameron - 1
Aramide Oteh - 1
Jake Bidwell - 1
Jordan Cousins - 1
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Originally posted by DeepcutHoop View PostJoey was no better than Adel in the Prem. Joey did really well last season in the Championship, and surprised me with his improvement in temperament. Let's not rewrite history though and suggest that an improved half a dozen games at the end of the season was 'cutting it at Premiership level'. Especially when that period of improvement ended with him losing his temper and getting sent off in a huge match, and then losing his **** altogether and getting a 12 match ban, which ended with us packing him off to France.
Barton struggled for most of that season, and picked up for the last few games. Adel was one of our most productive players in the Prem, despite being disappointing in terms of the expectations we all had for him, along with some silly tantrums.
The fans gave Barton a chance, and a thouroughly undeserved (at the time) heroes welcome. The poll suggests that most would give the same chance to Adel.
I would love to see him at Rangers again, he has given me far greater pleasure watching him in his pomp than everyone bar Les I think, I also think he has a genuine affection for the club, but I don't see him coming back while Harry is here. Too much history between them.
I would be delighted to be proven wrong with Adel but think it unlikely based on those three years. I will continue to have great memories of some of his moments, mainly in the Championship but a few since then, but really do feel it is time to move on.
Also as a team we have moved on from our Championship days of a few years ago. We are a team, not just a bunch of work horses accommodating one talented player. If Adel can change and adapt to fit in with the team as opposed to the other way around great but is that really realistically going to happen?
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Adel won us matches and points in the Premiership, more than anyone else we have in the squad. We would have gone down without him that first year, without doubt. I think it's harsh top say he flopped in the Premiership. Since then he's proven he can work in a team that isn't built around him.
It is pointless characterising him as a 'bad sort' and assuming that he's some kind of naughty school kid who has no ambitions and will drag the others down with him, because he's probably got the most to gain if he knuckles down in the next few years. But I guess people see Adel in a certain way because of what he's done and how he's been portrayed in the media and have already made their mind up about him. So we're just going round in circles….
Also, I don't really buy this 'we're a team now' concept. We were very mediocre last year and the team is still completely imbalanced. We've got no pace aside from Traore & Phillips, who might not hack the Premiership, and no creativity.
Pointless selling him without an adequate replacement (eg. Morrison), especially for 2-3M when we're looking at Championship players at prices of 5M+
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Originally posted by stationcafe View PostAdel won us matches and points in the Premiership, more than anyone else we have in the squad. We would have gone down without him that first year, without doubt. I think it's harsh top say he flopped in the Premiership. Since then he's proven he can work in a team that isn't built around him.
It is pointless characterising him as a 'bad sort' and assuming that he's some kind of naughty school kid who has no ambitions and will drag the others down with him, because he's probably got the most to gain if he knuckles down in the next few years. But I guess people see Adel in a certain way because of what he's done and how he's been portrayed in the media and have already made their mind up about him. So we're just going round in circles….
Also, I don't really buy this 'we're a team now' concept. We were very mediocre last year and the team is still completely imbalanced. We've got no pace aside from Traore & Phillips, who might not hack the Premiership, and no creativity.
Pointless selling him without an adequate replacement (eg. Morrison), especially for 2-3M when we're looking at Championship players at prices of 5M+
Logically paragraph two spot on. However that's always been the case.
Agree we were mediocre last year but looking at the mess that emerged from we showed promise and what I was really getting at was that by the latter part of the season (not just last game by the way!) we seemed to have a united dressing room and mutual respect between most of the players. I'm far from an 'Arry fan but that was a considerable achievement. Also with a few additions we will in my view be far better equipped than last time around. We simply don't need to build a team around one player and to do so could be harmful both to our shape and the dressing room.
I would like to be proved wrong with Adel as if he worked hard and fitted in with the team and whatever style of play could be a decent asset but we have been waiting three years for that so far!
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