It's easy to fill a 40k stadium if it's priced right. Please read the post first

[QPR Richard]

It will be sad to move tbh but lets wait and see what happens...dont know why you are making this into such a big thing tbh. (apart from the fact you are a loon who doesnt like having his opinion dismissed as delusional "40k or oblivion"

Still keeping up with the insults I see. Can't you put together a decent argument then? I quoted you a reliable source and there's plenty more around.

So then, when the plan is announced, will you be fronting the campaign for us to stay put, or will you bottle it?

You may not think so, but I happen to believe moving to a new home is quite a big thing actually......

[W12_Ranger]

You don't half talk some nonsense. The unigate dairy site has been earmarked for a housing development as part of the white city opportunity area project:

http://www.whitecityw12.co.uk/

And you claim to be W12 Ranger? Yeah, ok

Well aware of what the site is now going to be used for Dickyboy but the opportunity was there previous to take it on but the land was deemed too expensive by the owners. Still I guess the owners preferred a 'project' a bit further in the future nothing to soon as they'd be calling your Barclays Bank loan from Hong Kong sooner rather than later.

You really do think you have all the answers Dickyboy but a quick check will show you the land was available as late as early 2012.

[QPR Richard]

Well aware of what the site is now going to be used for Dickyboy but the opportunity was there previous to take it on but the land was deemed too expensive by the owners. Still I guess the owners preferred a 'project' a bit further in the future nothing to soon as they'd be calling your Barclays Bank loan from Hong Kong sooner rather than later.

You really do think you have all the answers Dickyboy but a quick check will show you the land was available as late as early 2012.

What is your source for the land being deemed too expensive Victor, and where is the source for the land being available for a football stadium in early 2012?

And here's a source for the Barclays loan:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/10001410/Queens-Park-Rangers-chairman-Tony-Fernandes-will-use-loan-to-finance-new-stadium.html

TF corrected the figures on twitter and said to add a nought to it, making it £150m. Source: the chairman.

Look forward to seeing your sources Victor.....

[vblockranger]

So Rich you are not ITK then you just like always believe everything you read in the papers? lol. I just dont understand why you take it so personally that some fans dont want to leave LR for a 40k multi purpose venue? It seems to make you angry that a lot of fans dont take Fernandes as 100% and i cant work out why... Its only opinions after all so lets just wait and see what gets announced officially.

[QPR Richard]

So Rich you are not ITK then you just like always believe everything you read in the papers? lol. I just dont understand why you take it so personally that some fans dont want to leave LR for a 40k multi purpose venue? It seems to make you angry that a lot of fans dont take Fernandes as 100% and i cant work out why... Its only opinions after all so lets just wait and see what gets announced officially.

I've never claimed to be ITK, I'm just in favour of us going to a bigger and better stadium. I see lots of potential in using the new stadium for other events which will bring in extra revenue. Not forgetting of course the money coming in from stadium naming rights which will help finance it.

I accept that people may not want to leave LR, I've never disputed that, but I have tried to argue the case for moving, yet people like you won't accept a counter-argument and resort to personal abuse.

Can you commit to taking the lead in a protest group as and when the plan is announced? I think you would be the perfect leader for the anti-move lobby.

[vblockranger]

Dont want my club to be the vehicle for the boards ultimate target of this venue which has been their aim from the start thats why they employed Phil "numpty" Beard. If we move it should be a 100% in the interests of the club not the owner... he is just another of a long line of snake oil salesmen lured by the marketing and branding possibilities of the Prem. He has been a bit quiet and low profile since we went down? learnt his lesson? Or the Championship just not high profile enough for him? time will tell....

[vblockranger]

I've never claimed to be ITK, I'm just in favour of us going to a bigger and better stadium. I see lots of potential in using the new stadium for other events which will bring in extra revenue. Not forgetting of course the money coming in from stadium naming rights which will help finance it.

I accept that people may not want to leave LR, I've never disputed that, but I have tried to argue the case for moving, yet people like you won't accept a counter-argument and resort to personal abuse.

Can you commit to taking the lead in a protest group as and when the plan is announced? I think you would be the perfect leader for the anti-move lobby.

No you refuse to accept it and instead go on and on trying to convince us otherwise but its just not happening mate..give it a rest.

[QPR Richard]

Dont want my club to be the vehicle for the boards ultimate target of this venue which has been their aim from the start thats why they employed Phil "numpty" Beard. If we move it should be a 100% in the interests of the club not the owner... he is just another of a long line of snake oil salesmen lured by the marketing and branding possibilities of the Prem. He has been a bit quiet and low profile since we went down? learnt his lesson? Or the Championship just not high profile enough for him? time will tell....

See what I mean about the name-calling? Beard managed to turn the white elephant millennium dome into the O2 Arena, the world's busiest music venue.

Have a look at what he's done. Hardly a numpty:

http://www.sportindustry.biz/awards/judge/view-profile.php?Id=38&ProfileId=528

[vblockranger]

Still keeping up with the insults I see. Can't you put together a decent argument then? I quoted you a reliable source and there's plenty more around.

So then, when the plan is announced, will you be fronting the campaign for us to stay put, or will you bottle it?

You may not think so, but I happen to believe moving to a new home is quite a big thing actually......

Good for you mate..respect your opinion

[W12_Ranger]

What is your source for the land being deemed too expensive Victor, and where is the source for the land being available for a football stadium in early 2012?

And here's a source for the Barclays loan:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/10001410/Queens-Park-Rangers-chairman-Tony-Fernandes-will-use-loan-to-finance-new-stadium.html

TF corrected the figures on twitter and said to add a nought to it, making it £150m. Source: the chairman.

Look forward to seeing your sources Victor.....

Common local knowledge dicky boy, if you think I'm trawling the internet looking for links for you you're having a laugh. Fans on here spent long enough discussing it at the time.

I'm enjoying a nice cold beer on the balcony of our apartment in Marbella, on the way to the beach bar in a minute for a bit of surf and turf. This may come as a surprise to you but Victor the lowly site labourer does think there is more to life than listening to you repeating the same stuff over and over getting all hot under the collar when someone disagrees with you.

[vblockranger]

See what I mean about the name-calling? Beard managed to turn the white elephant millennium dome into the O2 Arena, the world's busiest music venue.

Have a look at what he's done. Hardly a numpty:

http://www.sportindustry.biz/awards/...&ProfileId=528

Definate numpty when it come to Football CEO the past 2 years and TF is a bit of a plum for giving him the job tbh.

[vblockranger]

Common local knowledge dicky boy, if you think I'm trawling the internet looking for links for you you're having a laugh. Fans on here spent long enough discussing it at the time.

I'm enjoying a nice cold beer on the balcony of our apartment in Marbella, on the way to the beach bar in a minute for a bit of surf and turf. This may come as a surprise to you but Victor the lowly site labourer does think there is more to life than listening to you repeating the same stuff over and over getting all hot under the collar when someone disagrees with you.

This

Its like arguing with the wife ffs... just run along and push your opinion on someone else.

[QPR Richard]

Common local knowledge dicky boy, if you think I'm trawling the internet looking for links for you you're having a laugh. Fans on here spent long enough discussing it at the time.

I'm enjoying a nice cold beer on the balcony of our apartment in Marbella, on the way to the beach bar in a minute for a bit of surf and turf. This may come as a surprise to you but Victor the lowly site labourer does think there is more to life than listening to you repeating the same stuff over and over getting all hot under the collar when someone disagrees with you.

So then Victor old man, you have no sources. What a surprise.....

[vblockranger]

So then Victor old man, you have no sources. What a surprise.....

You and Marshy got your own gang? :-)

[QPR Richard]

This

Its like arguing with the wife ffs... just run along and push your opinion on someone else.

I am willing to bet your career is nowhere near as successful as Beard's.

'Everyone in the world is a plum, except me' - Vblock