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    Michael Hann: Nottingham Forest's trip to Loftus Road could have been a title decider, but instead QPR still have issues to resolve


    Nottingham Forest's trip to Loftus Road could have been a title decider, but instead QPR still have issues to resolve

    QPR fans went to Loftus Road at the weekend expecting to learn whether Neil Warnock's team really is set for automatic promotion. A win against Nottingham Forest – who'd won their six previous Championship games and are unbeaten since a 1-0 loss at Leicester in November – and the Rs would surely be mentally celebrating promotion. A loss and the race for the two automatic slots would have been wide open, and Forest would have become favourites for the title. But a 1-1 draw against a side who sat back and soaked up pressure after having a man sent off? It told us next to nothing.

    Instead we're still pondering these questions:

    1. Are QPR a one-man team?
    Back in August I wrote on this blog that Adel Taarabt was so dominant it raised worries about where QPR would find inspiration in his absence. Astonishingly, he hasn't yet been absent, and his dominance has continued: he tops the division's assists table, with 12, and he's the third leading scorer, with 14, half of which could be used to compile a personal goal of the season contest. The QPR team is built to serve him, and he has rewarded Neil Warnock's faith in him a hundredfold. Inevitably, though, teams have decided that if they stop Taarabt, they stop QPR. Derby and Hull succeeded spectacularly at nullifying his threat on their own grounds, but they couldn't beat QPR – and for all the "wheels have come off" doom-mongering in December, Rangers have still only lost three. What's more, the loan signing of Wayne Routledge from Newcastle has given Rangers a second creative attacking option for the surprisingly few days when Taarabt's mind is elsewhere, and so far he's made a decisive contribution to two games, scoring the winners against Reading and Coventry (the latter assisted by something astonishing from Taarabt). Only a fool, however, would deny Taarabt's astounding influence on the course of the Championship this season. So, a one-man team? Sort of: but he couldn't be that one man without the work of the other 10, who understand their job is to help him shine.

    2. Is Neil Warnock any good with strikers?
    On the evidence of this season, no: or at least he doesn't play a system that allows them to flourish. QPR play a system with a lone forward at the front of a 4-2-3-1, and the 1 in that formation has scored just four goals, excluding penalites. Rob Hulse, who shares the position with Heidar Helguson, has started to draw the ire of the Loftus Road crowd. That's not so much because of his scoring record – just the one goal – but because he isn't winning the headers or holding the ball up in the way his physical presence suggests he should. What's more, his size encourages the team to hit the ball high and long, when the best football QPR have played was earlier in the season, with the shorter Helguson upfront. With a smaller target, the ball was played to Helguson's feet more often, enabling him to hold up play and bring the three midfielders into the picture. Jamie Mackie, in particular, benefitted from Helguson's presence. Ishmael Miller, a loan signing from West Brom, has done nothing in the centre-forward slot yet to suggest he's any better than Hulse, though he troubled Forest when moved to the right wing in yesterday's second half.

    3. Is QPR's defence too brittle?
    This is one that baffles the W12 regulars. Steve Claridge, on the BBC, has criticised the Rangers defence several times (in fact, he seems to make a habit of criticising QPR) – but it's the tightest in the division by far, with 19 conceded (Forest are the next best, with 24). Paddy Kenny has been revelatory in goal, and the four in front of him have been consistently solid. It's not that there are no issues: the central pairing of Kaspars Gorkss and Matt Connolly are decent on the ball, but lack pace and are too happy to let the ball bounce. They'll be punished in the Premiership. And the full backs – Clint Hill and Bradley Orr - will surely see their deficiencies exposed. In fact, we caught a glimpse of that in the home game against Portsmouth, when Orr was targeted as a weak link and given a torrid time before Rangers eased into a lead they then never looked like surrendering. But for the Championship? There's no question: this back four is by far the best in the division.

    4. Can QPR afford to miss promotion?
    In a word, no. The journalist Dave McIntyre, who supports QPR and has covered them for many years, recently offered a succinct explanation on his excellent blog. The long and the short of it is that QPR owe their owners £10m, and that money's due. Without promotion, there's no way to repay it. Still, we at Loftus Road have spent a decade and a half understanding that every silver lining has a cloud.

  • #2
    Good Questions Paul, though I think, the one man team quote is waffle. We have players doing their own job in their positions.
    One thing that concerns me is that although Claridge is a complete c0ck end, and our defence is the best in the league, I think he has a point about the 2 centre halfs being brittle.
    They will b oth get exposed big time in the premiership, due to lack of pace and not being strong enough.

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    • #3
      "Every silver lining has a cloud."

      this is exactly how life at qpr has ALWAYS been.
      i was so peed off yesterday, and i let rob hulse have it in numerous threads, and i havent woke up feeling any different today to be honest.... but the long and short of it, as shite as he is, its not actually his fault, cos warnock brought him, so really he has to take the blame for not asking for more money and getting someone whos not total toilet.
      if we muck promotion up this season, then i think it will be the final nail in my qpr coffin, this is the best team and best manager we have had in so long, and the team is excellent all over the park (expcept the one important postion, which is one of the most important with the keeper).
      whos fault is it tho, does warnock know a good striker when he sees one, cos on the evidence so far he really doesnt, or did the board not want to fund him the money to sign anyone better than donkey man hulse, or fund some bigger wages in jan to garuntee us that automatic promotion?
      if we dont go up, we will all know why, and i know moaning about it is boring as f%ck, but its all we can do, and its still not too late too pay someone quality 20 grand a week for 15 games, so why the hell dont they bloody do it.
      rant over.

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      • #4
        Kevin Phillips on a 6 month deal, give him one last crack at premiership if he impresses. If this is done, then my friend we shall be watching Premiership football nect season.

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        • #5
          A good read, not one that i agree totally with, but some good points raised.
          Queens Park Rangers
          NPower Champions 2010/2011

          PREMIER LEAGUE 2011 - ETERNITY (Oh well got that wrong, we'll be back though)

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          • #6
            but you know it wont be done jeffro mate, and you also know its starting to get qpr time, and by that i mean, lets right royally screw it up at the last hurdle.
            im seriously getting worried, and i said i fancy us as automatic pre season and all season, till sunday. then me arisstotle really started going, cos they are all getting better and we are getting a tad worse. being draw sepcialists will not get us up anymore now the others are all winning.
            lets achieve adversity in the face of triumph. (again)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jeffro View Post
              Kevin Phillips on a 6 month deal, give him one last crack at premiership if he impresses. If this is done, then my friend we shall be watching Premiership football nect season.
              Jeffro, its a no brainier but he is not what Warnock wants in the system he is playing. He wants a lump to hold up and provide the midfield, where as Philips wants the midfield to feed the beast.

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              • #8
                I know GT, we will do this the hard way if we do and if there is a way to **** it up you can be sure we will endeavour to find that path.

                The others are like a chasing pack of hounds after the meat.
                Why is it i feel the need to WD40 my ringer??

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jeffro View Post
                  The others are like a chasing pack of hounds after the meat. Why is it i feel the need to WD40 my ringer??
                  Because you bat for the enemy ?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by paulmason View Post
                    Jeffro, its a no brainier but he is not what Warnock wants in the system he is playing. He wants a lump to hold up and provide the midfield, where as Philips wants the midfield to feed the beast.
                    why cant we just have no lump, and feed nobody, cos when we do pass to hulse he does nothing.
                    so get super kev, and tell the players to forget we have a striker and play like we have ten men, (cos its palying with ten men with hulse anyway) and just let phillips feed on scraps. cos thats what hes brillaint at, and i garuntee he would score odd goals to win games.
                    sod the system and get the ultimate poacher.
                    isnt it that easy?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by paulmason View Post
                      Jeffro, its a no brainier but he is not what Warnock wants in the system he is playing. He wants a lump to hold up and provide the midfield, where as Philips wants the midfield to feed the beast.
                      But we need a plan B or C and we NEED GOALS!!! Goals, goals , goals,
                      SHeff Utd fans said Warnock's stubborness caused them issues in the past.
                      Maybe this is our 1st experience of it?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by paulmason View Post
                        Because you bat for the enemy ?
                        CAreful Paul, happy clappers will be out for you on that one.

                        Alpha Male me.

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                        • #13
                          Hulse in the role he is playing is pony but he would be the perfect foil for Phillips but he would need to be allowed to play as a striker.

                          How can a striker play as a striker when he is told to do something else ?
                          Last edited by paulmason; 15-02-2011, 10:20 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jeffro View Post
                            Good Questions Paul
                            Theyre not his questions Jeffro.

                            Theyre Michael Hann's: http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/michaelhann

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jeffro View Post
                              SHeff Utd fans said Warnock's stubborness caused them issues in the past. Maybe this is our 1st experience of it?
                              He created a great system to accommodate Taarabt and when it works it works well, but when it is not working (for whatever reason), his stubbornness to change things around, has cost has 4 points (Hull away & Forest home), both games would have been won if he had a plan B or C, but I fear he has not and is why he starts with the same players if they are fit.
                              Last edited by paulmason; 15-02-2011, 10:23 AM.

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